Wednesday, May 18, 2011

The deception of the Occult Pre-Masters


When the Arts was first put out they was done by those that wanted to control the meaning and information, not share it with the world as they claimed, they viewed it as a secret order of wise others that kept it to themselves, as several still do today in the hopes they are correct.. look now on what they hid, because it wasn't to protect it...as you may think but merely to gain office as a wise one among others...



as i know it...The esoteric or occult traditions aren't the same word or meaning... some scholars need to get back to understanding what they are putting out..
(m) There is going to be a lot of overlap of those two topics... esoteric just means that few people understand it and occult just means its supernatural or mystical. Those are very broad categories.

(Wl) not so, as far as i know.. but your right about esoteric

(Wl) occult means to not be openly accepted as a based culture, the 2nd culture or hidden...
oculi-culture

(m)
dictionary Occult oc·cult/əˈkəlt/
Adjective: Of, involving, or relating to supernatural, mystical, or magical powers or phenomena.

etymolgy- occult

1530s, "secret, not divulged," from L. occultus "hidden, concealed, secret," pp. of occulere "cover over, conceal," from ob "over" + a verb related to celare "to hide," from PIE base *kel- (see cell). Meaning "not apprehended by the mind, beyond the range of understanding" is from 1540s. The association with the supernatural sciences (magic, alchemy, astrology, etc.) dates from 1630s.

etymology esoteric



1650s, from
Gk. esoterikos "belonging to an inner circle," from esotero "more within," comparative adv. of eso "within," related to eis "into," en "in" (see en- (2)). In English, originally of Pythagorean doctrines. According to Lucian, the division of teachings into exoteric and esoteric originated with Aristotle.

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(Wl) eso-teric (teric comes from the word tera earth) and as i know it eso comes from the idea of aesop idealism

and they are not sharing in most ideals...

i find that that is more spiritual construction based on the value of a word and not its real understanding as in practice and method.. but to each their own right?

(m)
If you really believed in to each their own, you wouldn't have been saying "some scholars need to get back to understanding what they are putting out" You on the other hand seem to be making up your own definitions. If they aren't your own definitions I would love to know the sources since I have not come across them.

(Wl)
thats why the occult is seen as the word "hidden", my sources are my teachers, just humble wizards themselves, and theirs that translated things different from these modern scholars.. you have to remember we are going by the word of a word,...

you have to also remember its thats that want the fame and fortune of others.. that write the books, not the wise...

i'm not here to change a word, just explain what it is that this word wasn't meant to be used for...as i know it..

example, are the jewish people called jews, no they was called that by the germans, so they accepted it, they are hebrew

example occuli look it up (cult) look it up

the so called old masters had a way with lexocraftology as we all know..

it means "word recreation" a ancient term only so many kno w about, that a modern word cant fully tap into..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oculus, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/culture, and the mysteries was called the society of the eye...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word
(lexi)

as my teacher put it, you try to find anything of true design outside the confines of its created circle, you won't because it will not want to be there...

(m)
looked at the pages you listed and not one lists occult or esoteric

(Wl) no it list the images from where the words was created from

oculi, culture (occult) aesop (a-eso-p) eso .. (teric) teri (tera)

esoteric ( tera ) of the act of being tera like..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_firma

(you will find nothing truly of value will ever be openly shared with the public...)

even if it show where something is going and why...

















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